Podcast with Murkta Part 4
Discover the essential tips for aspiring HR leaders in thisenlightening episode with Murkta Anya. From embracing a data-driven mindset to fostering
resilience and continuous learning, Murkta shares invaluable advice for
mid-career professionals and fresh graduates entering the HR field. Dive into
the conversation to gain insights into the future of HR and the skills needed
to succeed in this ever-evolving industry. Don't miss out on this episode
packed with practical wisdom and guidance for HR professionals and enthusiasts
alike. Tune in and unlock the secrets to becoming a successful HR leader.
In this captivating episode of the podcast with MurktaAnya, we delve into valuable insights and tips for aspiring HR leaders. Murkta
shares her expertise and offers advice for mid-career professionals and fresh
graduates looking to enter the field. She emphasizes the importance of
embracing a data-driven mindset in HR, debunking the notion that numbers have
no place in the industry. Murkta highlights the significance of optimism and
resilience in handling the challenges of HR, urging practitioners to maintain a
positive outlook. She emphasizes the need for continuous learning and acquiring
knowledge in various HR domains, such as compensation, psychology, and labor
law. Lastly, Murkta encourages curiosity as a key trait for growth and success
in HR. Join us for this thought-provoking conversation and gain valuable
insights into the future of HR and the skills needed to thrive in the field.
[00:00:00] Andrew Liew: Now, let's come to the nextinteresting question for people who wants to do a mid career change or people
who are fresh graduate. What is your tips for them to be a HR leader into the
[00:00:13] Murkta Anya: For people who are mid career,Right now.Who wants to do a mid career switch into HRor people who are fresh graduate who wants to go into HR. Okay. And they want to think along the future of HR in the future of work, I think for me, one of thething that everybody who wants to get into HR, whether mid career or young
graduate, is to really remember that HR is not a place where there is no, there
are no numbers, okay.
[00:00:41] Murkta Anya: So if people are trying to avoidmathematics and then trying to join human resources, I think they should cast
that view aside because it's not the case anymore. It is quite it is driven by
data as we were discussing earlier and then making sense out of [00:01:00] it. So it's a combination of a science andart in human resources.
[00:01:04] Murkta Anya: where you do need to be capableof understanding the data, the business, how do we make money in the business
and then apply it into the HR processes to handle employees with care, with
with with humility, but also with the As a career advisor looking into future
and so I think that's the one advice that I will give that data driven mindset
is very important in any HR field they want to get into.
[00:01:31] Murkta Anya: Okay, so that's one. The second Iwould say is that in HR we need to be very focused on trying to be responsive
towards. We need to remain optimistic because there are many things coming. We
come across number of things which are not very positive. We have to handle
crisis. We have to handle difficult situation.
[00:01:48] Murkta Anya: It's very important to bepositive because if you become negative as a HR person, because so many
negative things are going on, we have to handle all these difficult situation,
then it can take a toll on our [00:02:00]mental health. And for me, really resilience level has to be high in a HR
[00:02:06] Murkta Anya: The positivity has to be there.Otherwise it can be a painful job. I can tell you that. It's also sometimes I
would not say it's a thankless job because I find in Sokja and our business
partners are very appreciative of human resources and we really work as true partners
together whenever we have issues to manage, et cetera.
[00:02:27] Murkta Anya: There's no blamestorming we willtry to work together. But for me the knowledge has to be there in the people
who are trying to move into HR, learning about what human resources is It's not
like you just learn on the job. There are some concepts which are there.
[00:02:44] Murkta Anya: It is also in a way, technicalfield, because when you have to work into compensation, international mobility,
even psychology of human behavior it is something which is a technical field.
So there needs to be some education that people need to do. [00:03:00] They can learn. There's nothing, which isyou cannot learn, huh?
[00:03:02] Murkta Anya: But you can learn about it, butyou do need to invest some time in it. understand about it, read about it.
There are so many things which are available on the net. Do your due diligence
before getting into the field. Don't think that HR, anybody can do you also
need to put in some efforts to understand The variety of things that HR
professionals do in a day to day life.
[00:03:26] Murkta Anya: Recruitment is also an art, butalso a science, so here, if you are handling employee relations, you have to
understand the labor laws of that particular country. So there's still many
things that you need to learn and continuously learn. So it's a continuous
learning, I would say, for human resource professionals.
[00:03:44] Murkta Anya: To either switch career or tostart the career in human resources. And the last thing, what I want... to say
is that you have to be curious. If you're not curious, if you do not want to
know what's going on what new things are happening, I think then [00:04:00] you stunt your growth and you become justa BAU person.
[00:04:03] Murkta Anya: Whereas human resources for me issomething which is a ever developing field yeah. Wow. These are great five
tips. So let me summarize for the audience. Number one is to have a data driven
mindset, number two, having a very good sense of optimism, number three, having
a sense of resilience, number four is keep learning, picking up new HR
knowledge in various fields from compensation, psychology, recruitment, labor
law, and the fifth one is to be curious, like a curious cat, wow, this is great
advice I hope that the audience out there are paying attention to this and we
will be transcribing it so they will remember it. Now, another interesting
question about you for the audience. We know that you write four books. So what
is your favorite book that you have read before and you'd like to share with
[00:04:57] Murkta Anya: For me actually I [00:05:00] read all kinds of books, but my favoriteone is by all the novels of Agatha Christie. I'm a big fan of For thrillers and
murder mysteries. And really, I would tell you why I like Agatha Christie so
much, because every time I read her books and I must have read each of her
books I don't know, 30, 40, 50 times, why? Because every time I read it. She's
the Miss Marple or Hercule Poirot. There is human psychology involved in it,
and when you read the dialogues which are there, the way the story moves, the
motives behind things, it is really an eye opener about behavior. So for me...
These are my all time favorite.
[00:05:41] Murkta Anya: I can still read them. I have theentire collection on Kindle as well as in hard copy at my home. I find that
some of these writers who have been who have been there, even though she was
writing in 1930s, 40s and all, it's still relevant. We still see glimpses of
those behaviors now. It's timeless.
[00:05:58] Murkta Anya: So I don't have [00:06:00] any other nonfiction book for you, butAgatha Christie still remains my best one.
[00:06:05] Andrew Liew: Okay, so Agatha Christie's books,wow it's very amazing that you still find refreshing to read. For me, I think I
also like to read non friction books, a bit more like the historical kind in
ancient China history, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Monkey King.
[00:06:26] Andrew Liew: So those are the things that Iread a couple of times because they give me some interesting different messages
every time I read them. It's almost like the Bible. Yeah. Yeah. Coming to the
next interesting question I wanted to ask you is what is the number one
software application that you use on a daily basis and why?
[00:06:45] Murkta Anya: Okay. I use I use this is acommunication coach that we that we got into our portfolio of learning
platforms a few years ago. It's called GWEK, G W [00:07:00]E K. You record your two minutes, three minutes, and then it analyzes based on
it's like communication coaching, but without a person in front of you.
[00:07:11] Murkta Anya: So you can do it anywhere. I cantell you it has really helped me over the years. So every time when I have a
free time, I will actually record my voice it's on certain topics and then it
analyzes and then I continue working on the improvement areas which are thrown
up by the app and it has really helped me in public speaking and even in
presentations, even in meetings which are there.
[00:07:36] Murkta Anya: So this is something which isthere on my on my phone and I use it all the time. The other ones that I'm
using in terms of so it's not a software, it's an app so which I'm using here
for my professional development. Otherwise in terms of software, there are
multiple things that we use at work and I use.
[00:07:58] Murkta Anya: For example. I use [00:08:00] Mural for collaborative spaces when wehave some workshops which are going on otherwise mostly the apps.
[00:08:08] Andrew Liew: Yeah. Wow. Okay. So definitely,even I would want to check it out, this app called Mural. It's a communication
coach application. Cool I think we are coming to the end of the podcast.
[00:08:20] Andrew Liew: Is there anything that you wouldlike to ask from the audience or from the universe, since that you have given
us so much?
[00:08:27] Murkta Anya: Okay, I would like to ask theuniverse is How can people be kind and humble even if they have achieved success
and I would like to ask the universe why some people are not able to do it.
What I believe as a human resource professional and what I have seen in my
career in different industries, different countries is that.
[00:08:48] Murkta Anya: A lot of issues, unnecessaryissues come because people sometimes are not kind or they are very arrogant and
what I feel is that if these two qualities, these [00:09:00]two traits are there, then life can become much better. So I know it's quite.
From what we have been talking, but I do feel that kindness and humility are
quite important for anybody to succeed in any role or in life generally and I
would really like to ask the universe for everybody to be kind and humble.
[00:09:19] Andrew Liew: Wow, that's a very novel. I thankyou for asking the universe and I also hope that the universe will answer you
back or anybody of us back. I also sincerely believe that kindness it's higher
prevailing order for living. Over reaches. And even I don't have a kid, but I
always tell that to my nephews and niece that if given a choice between greats
and kindness always choose kindness.